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I get excited about this series in a way that I felt during the "wilderness years" of Doctor Who. I've loved seeing this series find its feet, slowly building a mythos while telling entertaining stories, but also preserving its own mystery as it goes.
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all the episodes or all 3 season have been great, apart from the terrible mystery of the missing hour....
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bulldogjones wrote:all the episodes or all 3 season have been great, apart from the terrible mystery of the missing hour....
WHAAAAAT?? I think MofMH is one of the best things Big Finish has released EVER! I'll admit when I first started listening to it, I was thinking "What the heck is this??" but soon was incredibly rewarded for my patience. It's simply amazing. Such a brilliant ending as well. And I'm glad you brought this up: And I have a feeling it's not over yet... the little bits of dialog at the end of each CD since then: Are they just fun little bonuses or are they something more? ....Listen to the preview of "Wall of Darkness" at the end of "Zero" very carefully: It talks about the Transients final offensive... about Copper missing... about it being surprising that Silver got caught in a simple trap... trapping S&S on a disc... in fiction... disc after disc....Why re-familiarize us to these things just before the "Wall of Darkness" preview? One would suspect they're relevant. And after the preview... Sapphire trapped on the CD: "Steel... It's cold." Are they still there? Is what we perceive as Big Finish's "Sapphire & Steel" the prison of the REAL Sapphire & Steel, "unable to distinguish you from the fiction" 
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Foamasi wrote:WHAAAAAT?? I think MofMH is one of the best things Big Finish has released EVER! I agree, because it's a great story, it's funny (with the humor being part of the point, rather than "comedy relief"), and it's a wicked parody of bad audio/radio writing. Foamasi wrote:Why re-familiarize us to these things just before the "Wall of Darkness" preview? One would suspect they're relevant. I agree. Something is taking its course . . .
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I agree. MotMH was superb. If there hadn't been a third series, how brilliant would that end have been. Like the TV series, ending with our heroes trapped... Of course, it may still happen...
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ok everyone seems to like it!
maybe I am wrong, I will bite the bullet and relisten to missing hour
the passenger & perfect day are my favorites.
and I too hope that season 4 happens, a let's pray it is 6 story season, bi-monthly to keep us going all year
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bulldogjones wrote:ok everyone seems to like it!
maybe I am wrong, I will bite the bullet and relisten to missing hour
the passenger & perfect day are my favorites. Hi - Actualy, I'm with you on this bulldogjones. MOTMH was one of those playing-with-format releases where the clever-clever gimmicks drown out the narrative. At the end of the day, I personally prefer a strong story, well told. Playing-with-form, when it happens, should be the icing, not a substitute for the cake. I think Lyons has probably been the best - and certainly the most consistent - writer on this series. "The Passenger" and "Perfect Day" are both good solid stories, and "Zero" is absolutely superb. If you haven't heard it yet, you're in for a treat. Hmmm - maybe I'm being a little harsh on MOTMH - it does have its points of interest. Just not my cup-of-tea, I guess... Cheers------------JohnH
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bulldogjones wrote:the passenger & perfect day are my favorites. Those, and The Surest Poison, are (to my taste) the best self-contained stories. I do like some of the others that tie together more (Water Like a Stone leading to Cruel Immortality and Missing Hour, and then WLAS and Missing Hour leading to Second Sight), but if I wanted to play one story for a newbie, where it didn't depend on having heard anything that went before, it would be Passenger, Perfect Day, or Surest Poison. Even Zero, which is excellent, works better if you've heard the previous ones with Gold.
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Throughout 'Zero' the threat level is building to a point that in a normal narrative it would be dificult to resolve all issues in the one remaning play of the season.
But this is Sapphire and Steel, normal narrative doesn't apply.
I agree with waldo about the stand alone narratives. I always felt that Perfect Day and Surest Poison felt more like the 'Look In' strips than the tv series in places. Perhaps thats what gives them their edge.
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kowarth wrote:I always felt that Perfect Day and Surest Poison felt more like the 'Look In' strips than the tv series in places. Perhaps thats what gives them their edge. "'Look In' strips"? I'm not familiar with the term.
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'Look In the tv times for kids' was a magazine published through the 70's and 80's which amongst its many features and interviews also ran comic strips based on TV licenses.
One of which was Sapphire and Steel (another being The Tommorrow People). Despite the magazine being aimed at the original more junior readship that S&S was created for, the stories were relatively faithful to their tv counterparts.
Personally I loved them. there are specimens of the work dotted around the internet somewhere, I don't have an addy to hand i'm afraid
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kowarth wrote:Personally I loved them. there are specimens of the work dotted around the internet somewhere, I don't have an addy to hand i'm afraid http://www.animus-web.demon.co.uk/sapphireandsteel/ - there you go
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Thanks for that :)
bits of these are odd but I do love em
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I read the Look-In Sapphire and Steel strips as a child, alongside watching the TV episodes. So much so that I ended up blurring the two in my memory later!
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Opening lines for season 4????
G'day, Sapphire.
G'day, Steel.
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kowarth wrote:'Look In the tv times for kids' was a magazine published through the 70's and 80's which amongst its many features and interviews also ran comic strips based on TV licenses.
One of which was Sapphire and Steel (another being The Tommorrow People). Thanks.
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And another. The oft-forgotten, but brilliant, Timeslip. Have a look here for complete S&S and TP strips... http://www.lookinarchive.com/picturestrips.html
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Show #2: Big Finish Set Report: The Wishing Beast (including interviews with Bonnie Langford, Jean Marsh and John Ainsworth)
Show #4: Nick Briggs Interview (rustling anoraks, Anne Robinson and how we delayed Dalek Empire 4 by an hour!)
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Well having just listened to Wall of Darkness, I certainly hope that there
will be a season 4.
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PaulHarrison wrote:Well having just listened to Wall of Darkness, I certainly hope that there will be a season 4. Don't give anything away! :-) (I haven't received mine yet.)
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So, when the first poster said 'no Companion Chronicle' style release for S&S, I thought: "But those are so good!" But then it struck me that the reason it wouldn't work is that Sapphire and Steel is so heavily reliant on the interaction between the lead pair that a single voice would dilute it. Moreover, unless each one was narrated by an outsider to the assignment, you'd have to go inside Sapphire and Steel's thoughts and feelings: oh, the potential for disaster!
OTOH, given the way many of the CCs are introduced - the much older companion speaks to a mysterious 'listener' - witnesses being debriefed by <i>something</i> might make a fabulous short series of companion audios.
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